I'd heard rumours about Charlie, shame about Buster. Having been injured, he wasn't involved in some of the really poor performances that led up to relegation, maybe he could have made a difference.
Both worthy of higher class rugby than Nat 1. Good luck to both.
I am bitterly disappointed that buster has gone. I thought he had a lot more of Moseley blood in him than he obviously had. I suspect the squad for next season will consist of the remains of a decimated 2015 squad with a lot of unknowns - other than Chris Brightwell - or a retained squad of unwanted by anyone else Moseley players plus a few unknowns.
retained squad of unwanted by anyone else Moseley players
Seems a bit disrespectful to say that anyone we retain from the 15/16 squad is unwanted by anyone else. If there are players from the squad who do stay with the club it might actually mean that they want to and/or have Moseley in their blood, as you put it.
Uninformed comments like that Phil are I'd say disrespectful to Buster. Let it not be forgotten he signed a 2 year contract last season and it was the club who in a position to honour it. Attitudes like that belong in the days of amateurism not in professional sport. Do agree though that those good enough will move onto championship or equivalent clubs and we will cherry pick what's left. Way of the world in pro sport just hope we haven't left it to late on the recruitment front ourselves as most clubs sorted theirs some while ago.
And surely any player who has not come up through the ranks should have shown loyalty to his previous club - which would undoubtedly have left us rather depleted in recent times.
Post by Westcountry Mose on May 6, 2016 19:22:04 GMT
Although I disagree with Phil's use of the word 'unwanted' I share his disappointment over the loss of these two. Charlie came to us from relegated Albion and the coaches gave him the opportunity to develop, which he did. I believe he owed us another 12 months. Buster was a fans favourite and spent alot of the season (through no fault of his own) out injured. In the circumstances, staying another 12 months was surely not too much to ask? Whilst I can hear the comments about short careers and needing to bring in the money, what about the supporters who dig deep into their pockets and make considerable efforts to support the players? Hats off to Chris Brightwell for staying around to give it a go.
In reply also to Phil hall there are players who have decided to stay and play for moseley next year despite having offers from championship clubs , but with so called supporters like Phil one wonders if there loyalty is misplaced and might be better appreciated if they did leave and play elsewhere
Kevin maggs has a difficult enough job trying to assemble a team for next year without individuals making the players who have decided to stay feel unwanted , remember Phil players read these posts as well as supporters how about a bit of tact for once.
Londonexile refers to me being disrespectful in that there may be players who "want to and / or have Moseley in their blood". Quite correct londonexile, quite right, but consider the brutal fact of rugby life at Moseley now. If and it is a big IF - as is implied - there are those players who really, honestly and without question want to stay at Moseley - and play National League 1 next season - then why have they not already pledged their loyalty to Moseley just like Chris Brightwell has and Maggsy our coach has - or are they simply sitting on the fence hoping for something better.
Of course there may very well be those players whom Maggsy would prefer to retain and then there may be those whom he would prefer NOT to retain. The whole question of squad building this season is going to be a totally different scenario to last season.
Naturally the objective will be to return to the Championship as early as possible and Maggsy will realise that the better Moseley players will have their own agenda be it with Moseley - Chris Brightwell, for example - or elsewhere - Buster Lawrence, for example - but building always takes time and building a brand new team using good bricks from the recent Moseley demolition will not be an easy task. Some bricks will be sound - Chris Brightwell, for example - some not so. Time will tell.
Of course we loyal Moseley supporters WILL support Moseley, whatever the outcome and we want to know what it will be as soon as possible, if not sooner because the uncertain surrounding the current hiatus is very debilitating for everyone.
Phil do you honestly believe Maggs and Brightwell are sticking around due to loyalty alone? I suggest a decent portion of what little £ we now operate with has gone to retaining those two to attract a competitive squad. An approach I wholeheartedly agree with.
Westcountymose you say re Buster that "staying another 12 months was surely not too much to ask" - well ask yourself whether you would work for free (or as good as) in your current job or move elsewhere to be paid for your efforts?
There are still a few expectation readjustments required!!
All too easy to pass judgement on the players moving on via this message board. However can we be sure they were spoken to about next season by Mose before talking with other clubs? Not the clubs fault that it can't live beyond its means but our full timers by definition have no other jobs to fall back on. If I were told by my employer that there was no job for me come next month and then I moved to another employment opportunity is that disloyal or a sound financial decision for me and my family?
I am bitterly disappointed that buster has gone. I thought he had a lot more of Moseley blood in him than he obviously had. I suspect the squad for next season will consist of the remains of a decimated 2015 squad with a lot of unknowns - other than Chris Brightwell - or a retained squad of unwanted by anyone else Moseley players plus a few unknowns.
Either option does not make for good reading.
Have you forgotten we were relegated and have a shortfall of 500k Phil?
If we manage to keep any of the current squad it will be a job well done by the club.
It would be good to hear about any other players who have resigned for next season. In my opinion there had been a lot of unnecessary comment made on this message board. The facts are very plain. We do not have the resources we had last season and as such must readjust accordingly. I suspect that there are a number of clubs still within the championship that have over spent and have balance sheets that do not make for good reading. I applaude the comments made by Dave Warren in his letter attached to the form to renew my season ticket (which I have done without hesitation) where he refers to a solid financial footing. We will hear about other players who have signed for other clubs. Good luck to them - I, for one, do not class this as being disloyal. I genuinely look forward to next season as I have not lost my passion for our glorious club as it has provided me with so much over more than 20 years.
Post by Westcountry Mose on May 7, 2016 11:23:30 GMT
In answer to the question - I would like to think that if I had been happy in my workplace and was appreciated for my efforts by those paying my wages but then got injured and was unable to contribute to the business, on recovery, I would stay for a while and try and help turn things around before considering whether or not to jump ship.
In answer to the question - I would like to think that if I had been happy in my workplace and was appreciated for my efforts by those paying my wages but then got injured and was unable to contribute to the business, on recovery, I would stay for a while and try and help turn things around before considering whether or not to jump ship.
You must live in a less financially pressurised world than the rest of us (although you pass no comment on whether you would stay for nowt)!
Post by Westcountry Mose on May 7, 2016 15:19:05 GMT
I never thought this was a messageboard where contributors had to be cross-examined on their opinions! Whilst for tax purposes I admit to being a 'Non Dom' and never have to worry about the cost of aviation fuel and airport landing fees, it would very surprising if any Mose player failed to receive any payment next season.
