Post by kingsheathlad on Jan 24, 2017 16:28:28 GMT
Apart from it being terrible for their players and supporters , the other Championship clubs are going to have reduced revenue from their remains fixtures with them which could put a strain on the clubs financially.
...and before people join in .............its no relegation from Championship with one up from Nat 1. The finacial consequences for the other Champ clubs may be significant - LS and LI and Richmond for instance. The RFU document reads fair and just. It will make other Clubs with 'an empty piggy bank' think long and hard about risking a 20 point deduction for financial irregularities as a risk worth taking!!
I am glad there are some Clubs around with some money to spend from their piggy bank without doing a London Welsh on us all !!
This is not good for London Welsh, their players, their supporters or their creditors. It is not good for rugby in general.
Does this alter the Directors' view? For 2017/18 Hartpury will take their place in the Championship, but what about 2018/19 - assuming there will be relegation and the top club from NL1 is promoted? I can imagine a number of clubs throwing everything at it to get there and it's probably not worth betting the farm, but one more year?
Post by Westcountry Mose on Jan 25, 2017 11:08:33 GMT
Surely a club should have to give a commitment at the start of the season as to whether or not they move up if they finish in a promotion position? Such decisions affect more than one club and result, amongst other things, in staff contracts not being renewed. If the gossip on RM is correct then until last weeks Statement from our Board of Directors we were in a great position to return to the Championship. I think we will now be lucky to finish in the top 6.
Season just about half over - why cannot BMR be in a position to be promoted if Hartpury do not take up promotion? (If that is the RFU rules)
To be honest in their (no doubt) talks with Gloucester, Hartpury, I would have thought (despite Rolling Maul), would wish to take up Championship placement thus providing Glos with a great catchment for young new players to learn their trade in practice at the highest level as they launch into their career.
Regarding Westcountry Mose and his closing comment "...I think we will now be lucky to finish in the top 6...". I cannot help but put a positive slant on the scenario now and feel that there might just be something to scrap for at the end of the season. So Mosley PLAYERS. I have a challenge for you and for YOU alone.
DO YOU WANT TO BE IN A POSITION TO GET BACK INTO THE CHAMPIONSHIP SHOULD HARTPURY CHOOSE NOT TAKE UP THEIR PROMOTION OPTION??? I SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU DO.
But to do that you MUST tackle the all important question of FITNESS, or to be blunt, THE LACK OF FITNESS, PARTICULARLY IN THE FORWARDS. Rugby commentators have described YOUR LACK OF FITNESS in various forms all season; Moseley tired; the opposition forwards took control; Moseley were slow; Jack Preece was in the thick of everything; Jaques le roux made good ground; Chris Brightwell leads by example.
YOU and YOU ALONE CAN and MUST take control of your destiny. Your MOSELEY squad consists of former internationals, premiership and championship players. YOU ARE A GOOD SIDE and have the foundation for a VERY GOOD SIDE. You are not a Barbarians team consisting of good players who rarely play together. You are a squad of GOOD SEASONED PLAYERS who HAVE played together and at a higher level and intensity than you are now. For goodness sake do something about it NOW, yes NOW. Release that potential. Play at that higher level and intensity. Grab the opposition as a whole by the scruff of the neck and hammer them from start to finish. Boss and dominate the opposition pack in an unending quest for total domination.
If that means getting fitter and meaner, then GET FITTER AND MEANER. If that means training an EXTRA 1, 2 or 3 more nights per week THEN DO IT - NEVER MIND THAT YOU MIGHT NOT GET PAID FOR IT, JUST DO IT - because if you do succeed and finish runners up, AND YOU CAN, IF YOU WANT TO - then there just might be a pot of gold waiting for you.
You are not a bunch of strangers, a barbarian side, thrown together for the first time. You all know each other - or should know each other - know your strengths and your weaknesses. Play to them, support and encourage each other. YOU KNOW YOU CAN DO after all, you have demonstrated it enough times this season. Take heart from what you can do AND HAVE DONE and build on it.
Pam and I along with hundreds of other loyal supporters will be yelling and screaming for you all the way to the end of the season - and beyond. Play your part MOSELEY PLAYERS, play the game and reap the spoils.
Come on Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
Who knows at this stage kingsheathlad but if it does become an option at the end of the season the team that is 2nd will take the spoils. MOSELEY MUST be there, not thereabouts but THERE, 2nd in the league to take advantage. There must be a relentless drive to win 5 points from EVERY FIXTURE for the rest of the season, starting on Saturday at Cambridge.
The ONLY people who can make that happen are the MOSELEY PLAYERS; NOT the coaches, although they will help; not the supporters, although they too will help; but THE 15 MOSELEY PLAYERS THEMSELVES ON THE FIELD OF PLAY.
Say no more other than, Come on Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
I don't know the league rules if the winner of the league does not take promotion. Does second place take the place or is there no promotion.
There will *have* to be promotion this season as The Championship is a team down on full numbers, so there will be no relegation from there. If the top team declines to go up, second place will be invited, I'd have thought.
I know some bloke on Rolling Maul has set the hare running about whether Hartpury would take promotion or not, but I'm not sure why other than mischief making he's done it. Rolling Maul would appear to be the only source for the speculation and certainly Hartpury people (such as there are) and Glaws fans seem to think they would go up.
The statement from Hartpury does not detract one iota from MOSELEY making every conceivable attempt to finish up 2nd in the league. The show is not over until the fat lady sings, as is so often quoted, so, between now and the end of the season AND even beyond, anything could happen, therefore MOSELEY MUST strive for that 2nd position. No questions, no holding back, no quarter.
Come on Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
The rules are that the top team from NL1 will be promoted to the Championship. If any team withdraws / is unable to compete / is removed from the Championship before 1st August (e.g. Hartpury?, Jersey?), the RFU Board has absolute discretion to appoint 'a club which would otherwise play in National 1' - not necessarily the second placed club, but presumably one well placed in terms of financial stability. (If this happens after 1st June, NL1 will continue with fewer than 16 clubs.)
No doubt a number of clubs would be vying for that place.
Interesting couple of articles in The Rugby Paper today on the subject of "ring fencing" the top 2 leagues. Nice of Phil Maynard to mention Mose as having the ambition to sit at the top table along with Coventry and Plymouth. There is also the Chairman of London Welsh suggesting that there may be a general "off loading" of bit players amongst Championship sides to save money with no threat of relegation. Wonder if any could find there way to us??? If the attendance figures are correct in the paper some Championship sides really do struggle to attract people to their games.