Birmingham Moseley 0-52 Chinnor

[Phil]

We welcome league leaders Chinnor RFC Thame to the common in the penultimate home game.
We will also be having our end of season club shop sale which will be limited to the final two home games and a great chance to stock up on some Moseley stash. These discounts will be available in the club shop and not on our website.

We also have local band Sketch performing in the clubhouse after the game.

[Phil]

Match Preview

[banjo]

Excellent preview as always Phil - thank you

[dag]

Hear, Hear. Pam and I will be there.

Come on Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

[rogerhildreth]

Apr 10, 2024 9:23:23 GMT banjo said:

Excellent preview as always Phil - thank you

It's Chris Bertram that does the previews

[Phil]

For anyone not attending tomorrow, BBC Radio Oxford are providing live commentary.

link

[Phil]

[dag]

Just noticed all the ads and videos around the message board. Do we have to have them there?

Come on Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

[Phil]

Apr 12, 2024 15:53:47 GMT dag said:

Just noticed all the ads and videos around the message board. Do we have to have them there?

Come on Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

Unless you’d like to pay the monthly fee to have them removed, then yes we do.

[kingsheathlad]

It's advertising club stuff what's wrong with that, I can't see any videos.

[jones]

Very respectful preview of the game on the Chinnor website with Mose seen as very dangerous. Should be a great contest. Come on Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose!

[dag]

The adverts I see kingsheathlad - ads such as West mids mayor elections, nextbase dash cams, railway tickets and what have you, right at the bottom of the screen - do not seem to be advertising 'club stuff'.

That aside heres looking forwards to a good game today. BTW I dreamt last night that Moseley finished 3rd in the league.

Come on Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

[redditchmose]

Lineout a total shambles poorest performance I've witnessed for a long while and I've witnessed a few. This was right up there with them.Still you learn more from defeat than victory they say 🤔

[Shy Spa]

Hung on for 20 minutes but then imploded with 3 quick tries conceded. The classic demonstration of taking your opportunities.

155 minutes at home without a score.

Very different contest (if you can call today that) from the reverse fixture in December.

[kingsheathlad]

They are a good side ,and deserved to win game and the league.our defence poor and lineout not functioning.

[redditchmose]

If our lineout had functioned we could have made a contest of it unfortunately will butler went off injured and that was when the floodgates opened

[redditchmose]

Harry rather 😄

[rightarmover]

I think that’s a bit harsh to say it’s the poorest performance you’ve witnessed for a long time you obviously weren’t at the last home game against Plymouth, now that was dire.

Yes it wasn’t a pleasant watch from a Moseley supporters position. Yes the lineout was a shambles and I couldn’t understand why we didn’t change the thrower, Ryan’s head was mashed by 2nd half. Other than Sam Pointon’s 2 aberrations which resulted in 2 converted tries in 2 first half mins I thought we battled well for the most part and showed character 2nd half but in the end were outclassed by the better side.

But Chinor are champions for a reason they are a very very good side, with some talented players. They score an average of 40 points a game and only concede 14 losing only 4 games. Their forwards were awesome dominated the break downs. They hunted and tackled in 2s & 3s. They always had numbers at the breakdown where they were so quick which enabled them to provide quality ball to their backs to attack Moseley’s broken defence. They are one of best sides I’ve at the Common for a long time.

I still think we have had a good season and made progress finishing top 5 shows that.

[redditchmose]

We can't be losing by 50 points at home no matter who the opposition is.

[andyj]

The difference for me is that Chinnor are a particularly well coached team. Nick Easter was animated throughout the game driving his team on.

[rightarmover]

Apr 13, 2024 17:27:31 GMT redditchmose said:

We can't be losing by 50 points at home no matter who the opposition is.

Unfortunately these happen occasionally I know it's unpalatable but that's sport.

It wouldn't have been 50 points margin if they had taken the 3 penalty opportunities in front in the last 15 mins instead of kicking to corner and relaying on the misfunctioning line out... 

[redditchmose]

Yes they are but not 50 points better than us. The away fixture was a close fought affair that went down to the wire

[redditchmose]

It's not the end of the world but I will be drowning my sorrows 🤢.

[banjo]

The game was over well before Butler went off. First half, poor kick straight down the throat that they ran back then the interception. Game over after a reasonable start. They made it difficult at the lineout but putting people in the air which threw us (no pun intended). Chinnor are well drilled, the celebrating when winning a scrum was quite funny. It will be interesting to see how they get on in the Championship vs those that are full time. As for Mose, 5th place secured, regardless of the last few weeks it’s a decent season, easy to forget. And an opportunity to finish the season with a flourish vs Rams. Our captain will no doubt be back. Funny how our form started going downhill when he got banned……maybe he’ll think twice next time.

[bogs]

You can't afford the lineout to malfunction if you can't secure lineout ball you are in trouble

[markd]

First, many congratulations to Chinnor and their supporters on their promotion to the Championship and winning the National One title. I hope you had a great celebration last night and wish you well next season.

Second, to the RFU, promotion and relegation works.

Third, to the officials. I thought you generally had a good game yesterday. Just a couple of points. A lineout should mean that, broadly speaking, the ball goes down the middle of the line. It is not a backward pass as happened for Chinnor's first try. If you're not looking, then you won't see it. I was directly line with it. The pass for Chinnor's fifth try (that I'm even saying it hurts!) was as flat as my stomach and none of the Hinnor supporters were saying anything different.

I don't quite know where to begin with Mose. When playing a better team, perhaps it would be better to be playing down the slope in the first half to at least have a chance of being in the game at half time. As already mentioned, the first try was a travesty, but it was the first of three in about 5 minutes and that killed the game off as a contest.

We have some players who seem unable or unwilling to tackle below the sternum. That was the cause of most of the penalties conceded yesterday along with not releasing the ball at the breakdown when in possession. That indicates that support wasn't quick enough to the breakdown and Chinnor were all over it. The lineout didn't look good in the warm-up and didn't function all game.

Back in February, I was an advocate of signing the bulk of the squad as early as possible for next season to build on the continuity that had so benefited the club in the first two thirds of the season. Now? The team looks jaded, not very together and not managing even the basics to a decent level.

Don't get me wrong, I was more than sceptical that Mose could manage a top 6 finish this season. It has been terrific at times to see the boys show fantastic resilience under pressure and come out on the right side of the scoreboard in tight games, but there aren't many teams we've put away and a few tight games going the other way could have been disastrous given the number of points accumulated by the bottom four.

Finally, I'm interested in how others feel the tackle law is working at this level. In general, I think it's a good thing but there is a problem for the second up tackler. If the first tackle is either missed or only partially successful, the second tackler, who may be only a couple of metres behind, has almost no chance of getting low enough in time. Perhaps the solution is for the second tackler to be further back initially, but that requires almost a different defensive set up.

Come on Mose!

[dag]

Well done Chinnor. You won the title in grand style. You will no doubt have no problems playing in the Championship league. You were fitter, faster and far more organised than Moseley and snuffed out all the Moseley moves with consumate ease. The Moseley line-out in particular, with overthrows galore, was absolutely dreadful and the midfield defence, AWOL most of the game, was also a major stumbling block. You must have thought it was your birthday Chinnor.

Chinnor took all of their own KO high ball catches - and most of Moseleys for that matter - mainly because Moseley made no real effort at all to contest any of them. And I forget the number of times I counted how many players Chinnor had on the field because they were all over the place, compared to Moseley.

Moseley really must work on their clean break support play because Sam Pointon made a superb clean break and he didn't have a single player anywhere near him - nothing new there sadly. Chinnor by contrast, had more support options than God made little green apples whenever they made a break. Without a doubt I think a lot of that can be put down to lack of fitness, Moseley fitness that is.

It has not gone unnoticed to me and many other Moseley supporters, that the absence of Ollie Stedman on the field of play of late has had much more of a negative effect on the team than his pesence has had a positive effect. I really do hope he has learned a salutory lesson from his recent petulances.

Other than that well done once again Chinnor.

All the above aside and despite more than the odd poor Moseley performances of late, come on Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

[dag]

Although Moseley lost heavily overall yesterday one could still put some positive light on the occasion because they didn't do to bad in the second half.

They only lost that by 12 points.

Come on Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose

[dag]

There's even an outside chance Moseley could finish 4th.

[redditchmose]

I was wondering if chinnor have a major backer I would imagine someone is pumping cash into the club for them to be able to get to where they are now.