Birmingham Moseley 13-32 Sale FC

[Shy Spa]

In the first half Sale made the most of their opportunities to score two tries, although our defence on the right wing seemed easily beaten, before we recovered to set up nicely for the second half.

20-0 wasn't expected but probably reflects the performance.

Too many basic errors, and room for improvement - I feel I've read that here before.

[southernmose]

Sept 3, 2022 20:10:05 GMT poldeburca said:

I thoroughly enjoyed the atmosphere at the game against Sale today but may I put a suggestion forward. I attended many events at our successful Commonwealth games and noticed how the introduction of music between play, points, half time, and pre game really kept the crowd engaged, why haven't Moseley introduced this concept. We had a large amount of young people at the today's match, I honestly believe that the idea of having the Commonwealth template at Billesley would keep the youth coming week after week, any thoughts??

Personally I'd settle for a winning rugby team. Everything else is meaningless fluff. And let's not have 'cheering them on', some of us have been doing that since before leagues in 1987. I suppose we just haven't cheered enough? F*** random music, we're a club, we/re friends, we're stuck with them. Anyone is welcome to join us of course...

[CJB1]

Sept 4, 2022 17:22:15 GMT southernmose said:

Sept 3, 2022 20:10:05 GMT poldeburca said:

I thoroughly enjoyed the atmosphere at the game against Sale today but may I put a suggestion forward. I attended many events at our successful Commonwealth games and noticed how the introduction of music between play, points, half time, and pre game really kept the crowd engaged, why haven't Moseley introduced this concept. We had a large amount of young people at the today's match, I honestly believe that the idea of having the Commonwealth template at Billesley would keep the youth coming week after week, any thoughts??

Personally I'd settle for a winning rugby team. Everything else is meaningless fluff. And let's not have 'cheering them on', some of us have been doing that since before leagues in 1987. I suppose we just haven't cheered enough? F*** random music, we're a club, we/re friends, we're stuck with them. Anyone is welcome to join us of course...

Next thing would be those damned flamethrowers they have at HQ and other international grounds going off at every score. They had them at the Cov Arena for the Commonwealth Games Sevens, behind the dead ball line, activated for each score at that end. I was sitting behind one end quite high up, and they clearly throw out quite a lot of heat. The "DJ" at the Sevens was also completely unnecessary. Of course "Sweet Caroline" had to come up, if there is one song I could delete from the history of music that would be at the top of the list.

The energy crisis would seem like a good opportunity to dump the flamethrowers
"temporarily", but hopefully never to return.

A short burst of music when the home side scores seems like a small inconvenience by comparison.
And a bit of light background music before the game and during halftime could be ok if carefully chosen. But it would be nice if it were different each time. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard "The Word Up" at Billesley and it doesn't improve with repeated hearings.

[Oddsox]

Is anyone able to provide any detail on match?
Good/Bad.
Are Sale very good & we will be ok OR do I need to reset my expectations.
Thank you.

Cum on U Mose!

[CJB1]

Sale FC are good, and we just looked rather flat footed especially in the second half. Those two cancelled pre-season warm-ups clearly didn't help. Full-contact training sessions, which the team are holding, are all very well, but can't prepare you for the challenges of real opposition. That said, I think the line-out worked well, we defended some driving mauls close to the line very well and made Sale work hard to break the gain line. Handling errors were part of our undoing, and poor defensive shape gifted Sale a couple of tries. We also need to identify the chances of the 50:22 kick better. Sale picked up a couple of those, we did not, and the territorial advantage is considerable.

This is all fixable, however. We'll see what lessons have been quickly learned at Cinderford next Saturday.

[kingsheathlad]

The scrum held its own against a big pack.
We must have at least 6 potential starters who did not play either injured or unavailable.
Dawes, Roache, Benjamin, Allsopp,Dawes and Aquile.

[rogerhildreth]

Sept 4, 2022 16:01:18 GMT Shy Spa said:

In the first half Sale made the most of their opportunities to score two tries, although our defence on the right wing seemed easily beaten, before we recovered to set up nicely for the second half.

20-0 wasn't expected but probably reflects the performance.

Too many basic errors, and room for improvement - I feel I've read that here before.

Of course, for Sale's first try it was 2 second row forwards who were defending on that side of the pitch?

[andyj]

Sept 4, 2022 20:38:49 GMT Oddsox said:

Is anyone able to provide any detail on match?
Good/Bad.
Are Sale very good & we will be ok OR do I need to reset my expectations.
Thank you.

Cum on U Mose!

It is hard to draw any conclusions from our first league game particularly given the disruption to our pre season games. Harry Barnes made a valiant effort at number 6 but his best position is second row. Sam Pointon, as always, gave everything at number 15 but he is better suited on the wing but IMHO even better at 9. We are missing a whole list of players some of whom are still coming through rehab.
As noted above Sale played the conditions, particularly the wind, far better than us and secured I believe 3 50/22s during the game. As spectators we clearly don't know what tactics were outlined by the coaches but I can't believe it included box kicking the ball in the second half against the wind with, in one instance, the ball going out of touch from which Sale went on to score a try. Overall I felt we kicked far too much ball when a better option would have been to keep it in hand.
Sloppy handling and poor lines resulted in the Sale defence countering most of what we offered. I thought our backs looked very tentative in marked contrast to the opposition and in particular a rather sizeable left winger.

[grooveavenue]

Yes those 50/22's from Sale in the second half paid off. But even if they didn't there were more deep kicks which time and time again meant we had to retrieve and set up again, with our forwards on so many occasions making the long trip back to support. Mile upon mile!
Quite often we tried the slick check and and inside pass in the second half when a more basic approach while retaining possession would have proved much more to our advantage.
We fizzled out in the second half without really threatening their line.
We held our own for many line outs and competed well but didn't dictate against a bigger scrum.
All augers well for when players return to the squad as the weeks go on.
We know we are missing senior players but lets just get it together and slam Cinders!

[londonexile]

Sept 4, 2022 1:33:38 GMT dag said:

I would volunteer but I don't think classic FM would be a good choice of music for everyone - and it certainly wouldn't be at a deafening volume.

Ride of the Valkyries.....Carmina Burana......Montagues & Capulets.....just sayin'

[CJB1]

HAs anyone written a match report for this? If not, I'll use the one from the club website for MM.

[dag]

Its in progres.

[CJB1]

Sept 6, 2022 16:07:32 GMT dag said:

Its in progres.

Thanks Phil

[CJB1]

Sept 5, 2022 16:47:59 GMT londonexile said:

Sept 4, 2022 1:33:38 GMT dag said:

I would volunteer but I don't think classic FM would be a good choice of music for everyone - and it certainly wouldn't be at a deafening volume.

Ride of the Valkyries.....Carmina Burana......Montagues & Capulets.....just sayin'

Arthur Honegger - Rugby

[southernmose]

Hot Mackerel, obviously.

[Shy Spa]

Sept 5, 2022 9:26:40 GMT rogerhildreth said:

Sept 4, 2022 16:01:18 GMT Shy Spa said:

In the first half Sale made the most of their opportunities to score two tries, although our defence on the right wing seemed easily beaten, before we recovered to set up nicely for the second half.

20-0 wasn't expected but probably reflects the performance.

Too many basic errors, and room for improvement - I feel I've read that here before.

Of course, for Sale's first try it was 2 second row forwards who were defending on that side of the pitch?

Our centre-turned-wing (first outing in that position?) looked lost in the build up, and on other occasions. Hopefully it was an experience to learn from.

[Shy Spa]

Sept 4, 2022 20:08:20 GMT CJB1 said:

... Of course "Sweet Caroline" had to come up, if there is one song I could delete from the history of music that would be at the top of the list.

"Mr Blue Sky" would at least build on the Birmingham connection.

The second half performance brought to mind the old chestnut "So what do they play when they win?" "I don't know, I've only been coming for three seasons.".

[grooveavenue]

Music/Musak pre Kick-Off.

I could list Vivaldi, Litvinavsky, Paganini, Dvorak,Jenkins but that would be silly as just google Loud Classical Music to Annoy Neighbours and everthing you could ever wish for is there to enjoy pre-match, at home or in the car, on the bus, on the e-scooter!
(Maybe in the club gym too!)

[southernmose]

Sept 7, 2022 9:49:42 GMT grooveavenue said:

Music/Musak pre Kick-Off.

I could list Vivaldi, Litvinavsky, Paganini, Dvorak,Jenkins but that would be silly as just google Loud Classical Music to Annoy Neighbours and everthing you could ever wish for is there to enjoy pre-match, at home or in the car, on the bus, on the e-scooter!
(Maybe in the club gym too!)

we could go for the USA's approach to deposing General Noriega in Panama in Operation Nifty Package (yes, really)- VERY loud Jethro Tull...


"I Fought the Law" performed by The Clash was played repeatedly along with "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC and "Welcome to the Jungle" by Guns N' Roses; another song in the line-up was "Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die" by Jethro Tull.

[dag]

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[Shy Spa]

Sept 7, 2022 9:09:26 GMT Shy Spa said:

"Mr Blue Sky" would at least build on the Birmingham connection.

Good to hear this ahead of the DMP match and at half time.

[grooveavenue]

Mr Blue Skies is always good but a bit 20th century. Lets move on.