Rugby Lions 26-20 Moseley Oak

[observer]

Midlands One West
Results 16/9/17

Amended result - see post further down this thread!

Burton 67-24 Worcester
Camp Hill 23-31 Bromsgrove
Dudley K 49-7 Wolverhampton
Hereford 29-12 Sutton Coldfield
Lutterworth 20-17 Stourbridge
Melbourne 20-20 Stoke
Rugby Lions 26-20 Moseley Oak

Table 17/9/17
1. Dudley K Played 3-15 points
2. Bromsgrove 3-23
3. Burton 3-12
4. Rugby Lions 3-12
5. Hereford 3-11

8. Moseley Oak 3-7

Full table www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/competitions/midlands-division/2017-2018/group/22845#/table

[observer]

The result seems to have changed/been corrected to
Rugby Lions 26-20 Moseley Oak

I wasn't at the game so will enquire and find out what happened to the 'phantom try' that appears to have disappeared.

www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/competitions/midlands-division/2017-2018/group/22845#/results

[kingsheathlad]

The Rugby Paper has the score as 26-20.

[observer]

Bizarre:

From the match report:
www.therugbyfootballclub.co.uk/result.php?id=269&result=Fair-play-to-the-referee

Rumours began circulating the ground that the referee's scorecard didn't match the club's scoreboard, and when Moseley scored a try in the corner in the eighty fourth minute, their exuberant celebrations seemed to indicate more than just a losing bonus point gained. The conversion was missed and the final whistle blew. The look on the Lion's faces at the end of the game, confirmed that the referee had Moseley winning 26-27 and the home supporters thoroughly bemused.

Soon after the end of the game, the referee asked to review the video evidence of the first half, as he had Moseley on 22 points at that stage. This was carried out behind closed doors with representative of both teams in attendance to verify the outcome. This resulted in the referee spotting his error, and amending the final score accordingly. Fair play to the referee, who could have insisted he was right, and the score would have had to stand.

I'll amend the headline/result

[wes]

Interesting how Rugby Lions report this....not quite how it unfolded, while Oak were on the pitch having their huddle and the ref left the pitch he was surround by supporters and officials and challenged on the score, all players, coaches and touch judges believed oak had won, While Oak were still out they were approached by the captain of Rugby Lions and told the ref got the score wrong and they had got him to agree to watch a video without consulting with oak, that said, a player of Oaks did go and watch the video. Yes the score of 26-20 is correct but only the score was checked there were certain incidents and decision like the held up try that weren't checked. At level 6 we are not sure club video's can be used to change the refs scorecard but don't expect the result to be changed again.
The concern is supporters and club officials should not surround a ref after the game and put so much pressure on him that he had no choice but to view the video!!
After Lions had scored to go ahead in the 79 minute the score and tie was checked with the ref who said 26-22 last minute and Oak score, oh well wasn't to be!!!!!!!

[martinwatson aka Camera Shake]

A very concerning precedent.

If this had happened at home and I had been filming, would Rugby Lions have 'demanded' I share the video with them? And if Oak asked me not to.....? At level 6 is it mandatory for the home team to film the game and share?

'Surrounding' the ref before, during and after the game to intimidate/coerce him into following a particular course of action is surely not allowed. Should this be reported to the relevant disciplinary body and will the video show the post-match incidents?

Surely the correct protocol is to accept what the ref says, leave him alone, and then raise the matter with the relevant body within the rfu/nca and present evidence to that body in a cool calm and civilised manner?

[wes]

You raise some interesting points Martin...Not every club film at level 6 so it is not a requirement, would they have shared with oak had the result been the other way around? Would we have known about it being filmed!!

The ref had gone through to the changing rooms when he was approached so would not be on film, whilst we accept the decision, the way it was achieved was not right and having waited around the club for over an hour to discuss with the ref, how he managed to mark down a held up try he would not talk to me, it was left to a Rugby Lions official to tell me, he had discussed it with his society and been told he had done everything correctly. Whether that is challenged or not I don't know, the ironic thing is Rugby Lions posted the original score on the RFU website.

Would we have allowed the video to be shared, very unlikely unless it was requested by the appropriate sources.

It is what it is and we accept it.